Dave Donovan is the founder and editor of Independent Australia, a progressive journal focussed on Australian federal politics, democracy and economics.
In a time of a declining media industry slashing jobs left right and centre, I think supporting independent Australian media is vital, and I for one find it refreshing to read explicitly progressive takes on the news in IA. Here Dave talks about his background in the Republican movement, just how much neoliberalism has reshaped Australia over the past 40 years, class confusion, the overwhelming conservatism of Australian media and the attacks on the ABC.
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ARTICLE: Poll finds 62% believe our head of state should be an Aussie
ARTICLE: What is really wrong with the country: 10 years of Quiet Australians by Dave Donovan
ARTICLE: Fox News banned in Canada? by Snopes
ARTICLE: The palace letters: read the full documents from the National Archive here
Cause of the Week: The Federal ICAC Now Party (federalicacnow.org)
CW: This conversation involves discussion of sexual assault
This is the second part of my conversation with human rights lawyer and self-described "social justice witch" Sunili Govinnage.
Here we continue our conversation on what cancel culture is and what it isn't, privilege, oppression, intersectionality and class; topics that have certainly SPICED UP over the past week.
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Sunili’s writing at The Guardian
Ezra Klein's podcast with sujatha baliga on restorative justice
Exiting the Vampire Castle by Mark Fisher
Chapo Trap House's latest (patreon) ep on "cancel culture" with Matt Taibi is worth a listen
The Harper's Letter, On Justice and Open Debate
ARTICLE: Arguing over the arts is sort of the point by Sami Shah
ARTICLE: Overdosing on Symbolism by Ben Burgis
ARTICLE: Beshear promises health insurance for all Black Kentuckians
Cause of the Week: NATSIL's Stop Black Deaths In Custody GoFundMe Campaign
Sunili Govinnage is an Australian human rights lawyer and self-described "social justice witch" who has recently come to some realisations about themselves and their politics.
In the first part of this frank conversation we discuss her "decolonising journey", her focus on dismantling the "colonialist-capitalist-heteropatriarchy", anti-racism and cancel culture. We identify areas that we agree on and some points where we have different perspectives - differences that will be further fleshed out in part two.
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Sunili's writing at The Guardian
ARTICLE: Western Australia's King Leopold Ranges renamed Wunaamin Miliwundi Ranges
My episode with Dr. Chelsea Bond
Cause of the Week: Stop Black Deaths In Custody GoFundMe Campaign
Sophie Payten records and performs as Gordi. She makes powerful, sweeping, personal indie-pop and last week released her sophomore album, Our Two Skins. I am a fan and it is good.
I wanted to talk to Sophie about her other job (she's a qualified doctor and has been on standby during the pandemic) and explore the political ideas surrounding her recent discovery of her queer identity and the loss of her beloved grandma. We reflect on the 2017 marriage equality plebiscite, the political stasis that Millennials are trapped and having difficult conversations with people who have different politics.
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Gordi's supporting Bon Iver on their 2021 tour
ARTICLE: Singer-songwriter Gordi by Nick Buckley (Saturday Paper)
ARTICLE: Australian singer Gordi releases song to raise funds for the RFS
Cause of the Week: North Australian Aboriginal Justice Agency (naaja.org.au)
Dr. Chelsea Bond is a Munanjahli and South Sea Islander woman and a senior lecturer at the University of Queensland. She's worked and researched extensively in the area of Aboriginal health and regularly writes and speaks about race and racism in Australia today.
In this conversation, Chelsea reflects on how the recent Black Lives Matter uprising has played out in Australia, her personal experiences with the police, the fierceness of Black women in this struggle and the intersection of racial power structures and class.
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Chelsea's radio show Wild Black Women on Brisbane's 989FM
ARTICLE: In Australia, black lives do matter by Aaron Patrick [$]
ARTICLE: 'Anger has the hour': How long must Indigenous Australia wait for change by Stan Grant
ARTICLE: White skin, black squares by Sam Kriss
Cause of the Week: Inala Wangarra (inalawangarra.com.au)
Andy Zaltzman is a British comedian, the co-host of the hugely popular satirical podcast The Bugle and (sadly) a fanatical cricket fan.
I've been lucky enough to become friends and work with Andy over the past five or so years and have been meaning to have him on as a guest for quite a while now, to laugh about everything in the world and ask him some (mildly) serious questions about his political outlook. Here discuss sport, statues, Fawlty Towers, the failures of the Corbyn moments, his "radical centrism" and the future of Brexit Britain.
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This Saturday is World Refugee Day: please support the ASRC's Telethon
The latest episode of The Bugle with Nish Kumar & Nato Green, Statuesque
Cause of the Week: The Sick Children's Trust (sickchildrenstrust.org)
Gavin Stanbrook is a revolutionary socialist who hails from Gumbanyggir country on the NSW mid-north coast. He's a member of Socialist Alternative who's been campaigning for justice for Aboriginal families for years and who helped organise last week's #BlackLivesMatter protest in Sydney.
In this conversation Gavin tells me how about tearing down statues, the revolutionary potential of this moment, police violence, the tragic cases of Aboriginal deaths in custody, his personal involvement in the #JusticeForBowraville campaign and why he thinks the police should be abolished.
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I was on the latest episode of The Bugle podcast with Andy Zaltzman and Hari Kondabolu
Gavin's speech at the 2018 Invasion Day Rally in Redfern
ARTICLE: There cannot be 432 victims and no perpetrators by Amy McQuire
ARTICLE: Justice for Bowraville! by Gavin Stanbrook
ARTICLE: Tear down Australia's racist statues by Rebecca Barrigos
ARTICLE: Our cops are killers too by Jasmine Duff
ARTICLE: Democrats are already trying to coopt the movement. Drive them out by Daniel Taylor
Cause of the Week: The Justice for David Dungay Jnr. GoFundMe
Oliver Twist is a very funny and intelligent up-and-coming Australian comedian. He was born in Rwanda, grew up in a refugee camp in Malawi and has lived in Australia since 2014.
I was planning on taking a week off the podcast this week, but in the midst of everything that's happening right now, Oliver reached out and we decided to record this honest conversation about his relationship to the police, race, class, Black Lives Matter and what meaningful action looks like.
There are even a few laffs in there too.
CAUSE OF THE WEEK: blacklivesmatter.caard.co
Here are practical ways you can support Aboriginal Lives Matter
ARTICLE: Australia must stop turning a blind eye to our own black deaths
ARTICLE: How did #BlackOut Tuesday Go So Wrong So Fast?
ARTICLE: Why the media are to blame for racialising Melbourne's African gang problem
VIDEO: Trevor Noah's reflections on the riots in the US and the breakdown of the social contract
Mark Seymour is one of the best singer-songwriters Australia has ever produced. He's the former frontman of Hunters & Collectors and now writes and performs with Mark Seymour & The Undertow. The new Undertow record is called Slow Dawn and comes out today.
Mark has regularly been outspoken about his politics through his music and public appearances, particularly when it comes to Australia's refugee policies. Here he tells me about how he approaches tackling social issues in his music (without being sanctimonious), why he's left-wing, wearing an "Asylum Seeker" t-shirt at the AFL Grand Final, his experiences in South Africa and how the tides of history weigh on us all today.
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Hunters & Collectors at the 2013 AFL Grand Final
Cause of the Week: The Frankston Life Church (frankston.life)
Tim Wilson is the Liberal MP for the Victorian seat of Goldstein and the Chair of the House Economics Committee. He last joined me on the podcast back in July 2015.
I wanted to talk to Tim about how he's found dealing with the COVID-19 crisis as a local member and his thoughts on the Morrison's government's economic response thus far as a well as a bit old-fashioned ideological argy bargy. We discuss the JobKeeper and JobSeeker payments, neoliberalism, government debt and why being a democratic socialist makes me an evil idiot.
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ARTICLE: Tim Wilson: Freedom fighter by Tim Elliott
Cause of the Week: Bayside Community Information & Support Service Inc (bayciss.org.au)
Rick Morton is an award-winning journalist and writer. He reported on Social Affairs for The Australian for years and is now the Senior Reporter for The Saturday Paper. His memoir 100 Years Of Dirt - about surviving his poverty- and trauma-ridden childhood - has been a critical and commercial success.
Here I ask Rick about issues he's been writing about of late - the conspiracy theories that have thrived amid COVID-19 and the new aged-care "Uber app" that's been given a multi-million dollar government contract - as well as his broader approach to journalism, the realities of poverty, how class works in Australia and the privatisation of the welfare state.
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Rick’s writing for The Saturday Paper
ARTICLE: How COVID-19 energised conspiracy theorists
ARTICLE: A fraction too much friction (on Scott Morrison's approach to the truth)
ARTICLE: Exclusive: Gov’s $5.8m aged-care app offers ‘no duty of care’
Rick's articles for The Australian
Rick's speech The Power of Money
ARTICLE: Rick Morton found writing his memoir painful enough. Then he had to read it aloud
Cause of the Week: Brotherhood of St. Laurence (bsl.org.au)
Rachel Siewert has been a Greens Senator for WA since 2005. She's the whip for the Greens in the Senate and her portfolios include First Nations Affairs, Family, Ageing and Community Services, Gambling and Mental Health. She recently chaired a Senate Committee into the adequacy of the Newstart/JobSeeker payment and has been fighting hard for the government to #RetainTheRate after the COVID crisis has passed.
In this conversation, Rachel explains how her politics are founded on concern for both people and the planet, the realities of our punitive welfare system, just how shitty JobSeeker is and why the Greens' "Invest To Recover" policy proposal - including a jobs, income and education guarantee - is the kind of bold response Australia needs right now.
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rachel-siewert.greensmps.org.au
RN INTERVIEW: Are welfare payments entrenching Australians in poverty and unemployment?
The Greens' "Invest To Recover" Plan
The Australian Unemployed Workers Union
ARTICLE: Adam Bandt, the personable hardliner by Margaret Simons
Cause of the Week: The Australian Greens (greens.org.au)
Dave Anthony is a stand up comedian, writer, activist and co-host of the history comedy podcast The Dollop. In May 2016 he correctly predicted that Hillary Clinton was going to lose to Trump in the presidential election. So yeah - he knows stuff.
Dave joined me from LA in the GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD to talk about the death of American empire, what he's learned from history, his journey to socialism, the right-wing Democratic Party and why Joe Biden is really really bad. We laugh and also talk about the end of hope.
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The Dollop episode on the Clarence Thomas hearings
A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn
ARTICLE: Biden And Sanders Announce Task Forces To Find Party Unity Over Policy
Cause of the Week: Extinction Rebellion (rebellion.earth)
Jon Kudelka is a Walkley Award-winning political cartoonist who's been drawing for over 20 years. He drew thousands of cartoons for The Australian until 2019 and his work now regularly appears in The Hobart Mercury and The Saturday Paper.
Jon kindly joined me from Tasmania via Zoom to reflect on his journey to cartooning, the (minimal) influence that satire has on things, what he learnt from John Clarke, the deterioration and stasis of Australian politics, punching down, how compromised the ALP has become and how COVID-19 might wake people up to shitty free-market ideology.
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Jon's cartoons for The Saturday Paper
Jon's cartoons for The Australian
ARTICLE: Data company that "helped locate Osama Bin Laden" recruits former Labor MP Mike Kelly
Cause of the Week: StreetSmart Australia (streetsmartaustralia.org)
Celeste Liddle is an Arrente woman, a trade unionist and Leftist who's written for Eureka Street, The Guardian and SBS.
Celeste Zoom'ed me from her couch to discuss how the COVID-19 crisis is affecting First Nations people, over-policing and deaths in custody, culture warring about Captain Cook and the "Indigenous alt-right".
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Celeste's blog Black Feminist Ranter
ARTICLE: Social responsibility means care for all of the vulnerable by Celeste Liddle
ARTICLE: Why the term "Australian" can be an imposition on Aboriginal people by Celeste Liddle
Cause of the Week: Djirra (djirra.org.au)
Adam Creighton is the Economics Editor for The Australian and has written for The Economist and The Wall Street Journal. For the past couple of months he's been highly critical of the Australian government's economic response to the COVID-19 pandemic and has called for the immediate easing of restrictions.
I asked Adam to sketch out his critique of the response and his concerns about its economic impact, as well as discussing the Swedish, economic "trade-offs", the "statistical value of life" (it's $4.4m, apparently), the joys of tax and what kind of changes he does (and doesn't) want to see once the pandemic passes.
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Adam's writing for The Australian
ARTICLE: Under 60, in good health? Crossing the road is more risky
ARTICLE: Let's hope the economic train crash is worth it
ARTICLE: We may be over-reacting to an unremarkable coronavirus
ARTICLE: Coronavirus: Total shutdown may be too high a price
ARTICLE: New Zealand claims it has eliminated coronavirus
Cause of the Week: Alcoholics Anonymous (aa.org.au)
Mark Humphries is a comedian who regularly makes satirical sketches for the ABC's 7:30 along with Evan Williams. He always makes me laugh and I've been lucky enough to become friends with him over the past few years.
Mark joined me via Zoom from deep in the heart of the ABC to discuss his politics, his (haphazard) journey into comedy (featuring some stories involving ME!!!), Mark Latham and the state of Australian right-wing media craziness and the limits of satirising it. We had a good ol' giggle and we barely talked about coronavirus at all.
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Mark's twitter account about musical theatre is @MarksMusicals
His sketch on The Greta Thunberg Helpline
VIDEO: Bogan Train Trip Girl Australia
Cause of the Week: Multiple Sclerosis Research Australia (msra.org.au)
Nick McKim is a Tasmanian senator and the co-deputy leader of The Australian Greens.
He joined me via Zoom (sorry) from Tasmania to discuss the Morrison government's (sometimes okay but generally shitty) response to the COVID crisis, the neoliberal Labor Party, how this pandemic affects folks in immigration detention and the current Greens' plebiscite on the election of the federal leader.
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Nick's page on the Greens' website
Information about the Greens' leadership plebiscite
ARTICLE: It's out decision: electing the parliamentary leader by Dylan Griffiths
ARTICLE: So how much power does the leader of the Australian Greens actually have? by Jonathan Sri
VIDEO: Why the Green New Deal matters
Causes of the Week: The Asylum Seeker Resource Centre (asrc.org.au), The Unemployed Workers' Union (unemployedworkersunion.com)
Tash Heenan and Anna Sturman are ecosocialist academics who are writing about and organising around the possibilities of a Green New Deal for Australia.
They both joined me via Zoom (I AM VERY SICK OF ZOOM) to lay out what their vision for a GND entails, its "four Ds" (decarbonisation, decolonisation, decommodification, democratisation), how much currency it had as a political idea prior to the current COVID crisis, the possibilities these new conditions could bring and the dangers of eco-fascism.
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I went on the Twink Revolution podcast with the darlings Gian & Sam
I also went and talked a bit of bullshit on Nazeem Hussain's Survivor's Guide to Coronavirus podcast
Climate Justice Collective - @greennewdealau
ARTICLE: Five Orientations To The Green New Deal by Tash & Anna
ARTICLE: The Greens' New Deal by Paddy Manning
ARTICLE: Capitalism is a virus by Jeff Sparrow
VIDEO: Why the Green New Deal matters
Cause of the Week: Sisters Inside (sistersinside.com.au)
Caleb Bond is a 21-year-old political commentator who describes himself as "conservative with a splash of libertarianism". He writes a regular opinion column for the Adelaide Advertiser and regularly appears on Sky News.
Caleb kindly gave me his time a few weeks ago when I was in town for the Adelaide Fringe (before the PLAGUE HIT US ALL AND LOCKED US IN OUR HOUSES). We had a wide-ranging discussion about his experience of being a young conservative giving his opinions in public, the politicisation of youth, the Opinion Industrial Complex, Newscorp, the idea that people naturally become more conservative as they get older, socialism, free markets, FREEDOM and his stance on drugs.
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I was on the latest episode of The Little Dum Dum Club
ARTICLE: The Strange World of an Australian Conservative Political Commentator by Toby McCasker
Cause of the Week: Youth Insearch (youthinsearch.org.au)
Gian and Sam host a great podcast called Twink Revolution, which they describe as "cultural and political commentary on current events from a homo-leftist viewpoint".
They joined me from their isolated apartment in San Francisco to explain how they came to Marxism and queerness (via anarchism and libertarianism), the failures of identity politics, what happened to the Sanders campaign (and how sad we should feel about it) and what the COVID-19 pandemic could mean for the Left. It was all very interesting, very funny and very gay.
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I was on the latest episode of The Little Dum Dum Club
Sam's twitter is @RevTwinkComrade
Twink Revolution's YouTube page
Sam's queer history of socialist nations (starting with the USSR), Gaylag Archipelago
The What's Left? episode on Coronavirus and the Sanders campaign
The People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips & Michal Rozworski
Cause of the Week: The SF Queer Nightlife Fund (sfqueernightlifefund.org)
Hello! This week's ep is a bit early: my plan is to (try) to start posting multiple episodes a week if possible. Let's see how we go.
Sean Kelly is a writer who writes for a range of Australian publications. He's a former adviser to Prime Ministers Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard.
I've always been a fan of Sean's analysis and writing and was keen to get his thoughts on how COVID-19 is unfolding in Australia, particularly in terms of the Morrison government's response. We take a look back at how the Coalition has tackled the crisis since January (sometimes okay but generally pretty bad!), why Sean thinks it's vital we see the modelling the government is relying on, the possibilities of nationalisation, the threat of "disaster capitalism" and how the ALP has responded to this situation.
Please note that just after minutes we finished recording, the government announced the $130 billion JobKeeper economic package.
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Sean's writing for the Nine Fairfax papers
Sean's writing for The Monthly
Sean's writing for The Saturday Paper
ARTICLE: Morrison must give us more detail if we are to trust his judgment by Sean Kelly
ARTICLE: Scott Morrison's efforts at hazard reduction by Sean Kelly
ARTICLE: Scott Morrison's COVID-19 two-person rule explained from ABC News
Cause of the Week: The Indigenous Literacy Foundation (indigenousliteracyfoundation.org.au)
Emerald Moon is a Brisbane-based Leftist activist and former candidate for the Australian Greens who's passionate about climate action and renters' rights. Emerald ran for the Greens in the safe Liberal seat of Bowman in 2019 and is currently working on the up-coming Brisbane local and Queensland state election.
Amid the insanity of COVID-19 (I hope you're all okay!), I ask Emerald about how she arrived at her socialist politics, how the Queensland Greens are making real progress with socialist ideas and policies, the truly cooked housing situation in Australia and how we can have a revolution while also practising social distancing.
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I'm on the latest episode of The Bugle with Andy Zaltzman and Nish Kumar, many LAFFS about the virus
ARTICLE: The Politics of the Virus by Mick Armstrong
ARTICLE: Here's a mad thought: let's save the real things like, er, the people by Guy Rundle
ARTICLE: What I like about the Coronavirus by Slavoj Zizek
Cause of the Week: Australian Unemployed Workers Union (unemployedworkersunion.com)
Welp. Gosh. Here we are, then. I hope you're doing okay.
Amidst the chaos of the global Coronavirus pandemic, previous LIASYO guest Osman Faruqi joins me (via Skype) to reflect on what the hell is happening. Osman is a journalist is the editor of The 7am Podcast for Schwartz Media and has been tweeting and writing a lot about the unfolding situation.
Here we discuss the most egregious examples of capital exploiting this crisis and the insane contradictions about this economic system it exposes, the Australian government's shitty response and how much needs to change in our society to make sure this kind of thing can never happen again.
It was a slightly depressing but very cathartic conversation and I hope it gives you some comfort and ferments your (justifiable) rage towards those in power in these wild times.
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ARTICLE: Should I keep my children home from school due to Coronavirus? (ABC)
ARTICLE: Super-rich jet off to disaster bunkers amid Coronavirus outbreak by Rupert Neate
Cause of the Week: Support Act (supportact.org.au)
Michael West is a Walkley Award-winning independent journalist covering the rising power of corporations over Australian democracy. After years working for both NewsCorp and Fairfax, Michael eventually went out on his own to cover the crimes of the corporate world and how big business get away with dodgy shit and poison our politics.
Here Michael lays out his experiences in and philosophy on journalism (plus some insights into Murdoch empire), the conflicts of interest in the big business of media corporations, the state of tax avoidance and political donations in Australia and how it's very clear that the economic creed of neoliberalism and privatisation has failed.
My show ENOUGH is on now the 2020 Adelaide Fringe, tickets available here
GRANDILOQUENT is coming to the Edinburgh Fringe Festival in August, it’s on sale now
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Michael's writing at The Independent
ARTICLE: Ranking Australia's billionaires as taxpayers by Michael West
ARTICLE: Australia's Top 40 Tax Dodgers 2019
Cause of the Week: Support Michael's site and his journalism (michaelwest.com.au)